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Thursday, June 23, 2011

PRIORITIES

People often talk of what our government should and shouldn't do. They tend to project their ideologies, needs, and wants on these demands. And so Hawks want a big military, and hawks vested in the military want it even more. And so Environmentalists want Green Energy, and Environmentalists vested in the Green Energy business want it even more. Meanwhile, even vest environmentalist hawks want the government to help them after a hurricane. Of course, we wonder if the latter type - the vested type - is a true believer, or just wants the money. And those in need simply need what they need. But most of use are really not all that needy at any given time and we are not of the Investment Class, at least not in a way so that we can exercise political power from it beyond just our votes, volunteering, and small donations. We are mostly among the former type - the simply interested.

This is why so many people are against healthcare reform: at any given moment most of us are healthy, and there happens to be some very powerful people heavily vested in the healthcare sector the way it is.

So, that leaves mostly just the interested who can make the changes we need in our governance.  Unfortunately, Americans are not generally interested in such.  I suppose one priority should be to teach Americans basic civics.  Anyways...

Here's some obvious priorities that I, as an interested person, see:


WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE

It is an absolutely necessary human right and we need it to be a constitutional right immediately.



WE NEED TO DEMILITARIZE

We're going broke, we can't afford it, and history shows that we absolutely, without any doubt, must demilitarize - our own greatest historical existential threat is our very own militarization. We MUST demilitarize.



WE NEED A NATIONAL POWER AND INFORMATION GRID

The private sector has no impetus to do this, but for both security and future growth, we can't do without it.



WE NEED TO END OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL

We do not need as much oil as we use, and we could do without it. There are powerful people heavily vested in oil. We need to overrule them. For starters, just a few changes in patent law would go a long ways toward ending this un-American dependence.



WE NEED TO END THE WAR ON DRUGS

We are ruining American lives exponentially more with the Drug War than the drugs we're fighting. And it costs a pointless, Pyrrhic fortune.



WE NEED A SIMPLIFIED AND MORE PROGRESSIVE TAX CODE

Any look at modern history shows our tax code is heavily tilted in favor of the wealthy at the expense of the nation. It's obvious. We have to pay our bills and we can. As well, we have to grow opportunity. Europe has greater upward mobility than America. They also have higher taxes on the wealthy.



WE NEED TRADE WITH OUR INTERESTS IN FRONT

Our trade deficit is pathetic. Take big agro and scrap (our number one and two exports) out of the equation, and it would be dramatically worse. Enough said about that.



I could go on... By the way, I wouldn't personally profit from any of this, though I suppose I could. (?)

JMJ

23 Blistering Critiques:

Micky said...

"Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." - Jesus of Nazareth"

Yeah, I'm tired of that being used as some excuse to excuse your own deviant fucked up behavior.
Just because I sold some meth once in my life doesnt mean I cant kick the shit otta some guy selling it today.
Or point out my congressman's hypocrisy


"People often talk of what our government should and shouldn't do. They tend to project their ideologies, needs, and wants on these demands. And so Hawks want a big military, and hawks vested in the military want it even more."

Yeah, but unlike the environmental factor you mention below the military stays within its confines and doesnt make you and I wear cammys because were more aesthetic to the landscape or make the trees fell undiscriminated against.
Environmentalism is just repackaged Marxism.

"And so Environmentalists want Green Energy, and Environmentalists vested in the Green Energy business want it even more."

They dont want green energy. Half these nuts want us to live their utopia lifestyle

"Meanwhile, even vest environmentalist hawks want the government to help them after a hurricane."

Shit, everyone from welfare recipients to the idiots who were told to evacuate three days ago expect a rescue.
The EPA served its purpose at one time. Now its become the countrys hallway monitor.

"This is why so many people are against healthcare reform:"

No were not.
We dont want Romney care anymore than Barrycare.
The market as is and will do just fine if you all stop suing for the dumbest shit.

"there happens to be some very powerful people heavily vested in the healthcare sector the way it is."

Even more powerful once dickhead gets his buddies in on it

"So, that leaves mostly just the interested who can make the changes we need in our governance."


Those who are truly interested want as little governance as possible

" Unfortunately, Americans are not generally interested in such. I suppose one priority should be to teach Americans basic civics. Anyways..."

Yeah.
You can indoctrinate our kids into a specific code of civil engineering starting in kindergarten with eliminating strawberry and chocolate milk and dodgeball.
Dodge ball is highly uncivil and the flavored milks (less sugar than the juice they serve) will cost the fed in healthcare later.
So, along with those nasty pictures you're gonna put on cigarettes you can put a pic on a milk carton of some fat obese fuck who broke the toilet seat and a cross section of his arteries showing the fat that clogged it.
Or car wrecks on beer bottles.

"Here's some obvious priorities that I, as an interested person, see:


WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE

It is an absolutely necessary human right and we need it to be a constitutional right immediately."

Yeah, change that pesky constitution so I'm forced to buy it from Barry



"WE NEED TO DEMILITARIZE

We're going broke, we can't afford it, and history shows that we absolutely, without any doubt, must demilitarize"

Pick and choose whatever history you want.
The other countries will still have bombs pointed at us.

Micky said...

" - our own greatest historical existential threat is our very own militarization. We MUST demilitarize."

Thats just an opinion derived of spite for the right



"WE NEED A NATIONAL POWER AND INFORMATION GRID"

So Barry can shut down when theres bad news

"The private sector has no impetus to do this, but for both security and future growth, we can't do without it."

Oh bullshit, no impetus ?
Have some more koolaid



"WE NEED TO END OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL"

We do not need as much oil as we use, and we could do without it. There are powerful people heavily vested in oil. We need to overrule them. For starters, just a few changes in patent law would go a long ways toward ending this un-American dependence."

The patents are filed.
The shits not viable today unless you go nuke.
We have our own natural gas and oil..along with alternatives.
Your windmills, ethanol, and solar panels suck



"WE NEED TO END THE WAR ON DRUGS

We are ruining American lives exponentially more with the Drug War than the drugs we're fighting. And it costs a pointless, Pyrrhic fortune."


Yeah stop lockin up people for a joint and construct a border that works



"WE NEED A SIMPLIFIED AND MORE PROGRESSIVE TAX CODE

Any look at modern history shows our tax code is heavily tilted in favor of the wealthy "


Bla bla bla bullshit.
Most Americans pay nothing and the top 1% pay 40% and the top 5% pay 60%

" Europe has greater upward mobility than America. They also have higher taxes on the wealthy."

They also spent more than they have and are issuing austerity left and right.
Everyone gets taxed there, not just the rich and their government decides whats luxury and whats not.
They like it because the herring dont realize they're underwater



"WE NEED TRADE WITH OUR INTERESTS IN FRONT

Our trade deficit is pathetic. Take big agro and scrap (our number one and two exports) out of the equation, and it would be dramatically worse. Enough said about that."

To bad our corporate taxes are so high or we could bring the work home.
As long as liberals keep the whole country at blue collar wages Chinese shit is all we can afford

Jersey McJones said...

"...the military stays within its confines and doesnt make you and I wear cammys because were more aesthetic to the landscape or make the trees fell undiscriminated against."

The military costs a fortune, Micky, and it is becoming a giant snowball of debt rolling down an ever-steepening mountain.

And YES, Micky, study some history, man! Over-extended military states ALWAYS end badly.

The other point is that the military only creates so much future growth. It is not so much an investment as it is insurance.

Yes, it educates people (and much so in the public university system, by the way). Yes, it performs some major infrastructural work.

But the costs of the military all told are just ridiculous. It would be as if an ordinary family with a household income of 60K spent $15,000 dollars a year on guns and ammo. They'd be the frightening neighborhood psychos!

"Environmentalism is just repackaged Marxism."

I don't even know what to say about that. Yes, Micky, environmentalism is Marxism, bla bla bla. Whatever.

"The (healthcare) market as is and will do just fine if you all stop suing for the dumbest shit."

I'm sorry Micky but none of that is true. Our healthcare system is a wreck. We have serious problems, with quality, cost, availability, you name it.

You can choose to ignore that if you like, but by your very statement above, you prove my point that people who are not suffering (especially without quality healthcare) are often willfully oblivious to a horribly broken system.

In other words, it's the Libertarian Credo: I got mine so fuck you.

And then, when you don't have your's, and you need it, you bitch and moan like the rest of us.

I've had better healthcare than the vast majority of Americans, and I've had much worse. This country is all over the place on that. We need better. It's better for us, for our future, for the nation, and for the world.

We should have the BEST healthcare for all Americans, not mediocre care for all but those who happen to work for foreign employers - as was always the case for me when I had by far the best healthcare of my life.

We should strive to provide healthcare for all our fellow Americans the way other people's do for themselves. We are the ONLY large, developed state without some kind of universal healthcare.

As for a national power grid, please show me where the private sector is jumping on that. It is not short-term profitable, nor should it be. We need it even though it's not profitable.

This is one of those Occams Razor examples to you, Micky. You seem to think that just because something is not on the face of it profitable, it must not be valuable. I think you need to reveiw your Bible on that one. You're making a false choice.

Is it profitable to take your kid to the park if you have to lose a day's pay? Think about it. You have no Ocams Razor there. Some things are worth it even if not profitable.

A national power grid is an example of that.

As for drugs, you said "Yeah stop lockin up people for a joint and construct a border that works."

I suppose. But our "border" has a lot od dimensions. Stop it at one "border" and it will come through another - stop all the borders, and it will come from here. Americans want what they want and they want to get stoned. Maybe we should look at why such an inordinate number of Americans want to escape reality in the first place.

As for progressive taxation and Europe: Europe is working through this and they are not cutting taxes anywhere near our silly brackets. We have the lowest taxes since before the depression, and we have the biggest deficits since WWII. Guess what? We paid that debt in the 40's and 50's with very much higher taxes and during that period we experienced the greatest growth in the middle class in the history of the world.

Argue that.

JMJ

Micky said...

"The military costs a fortune, Micky, and it is becoming a giant snowball of debt rolling down an ever-steepening mountain.

And YES, Micky, study some history, man! Over-extended military states ALWAYS end badly."

Oh bullshit !
It does not always end end badly.

Europe, Japan etc.
Stop acting like some fucking history pro when all you do is cherry pick and choose basic knowledge.
You say you support the troops yet every endeavor they take on wasnt worth volunteering for.
Just come out n say it.
You think anything military is stupid.

"The other point is that the military only creates so much future growth. It is not so much an investment as it is insurance."

Its job is to protect growth.
Thats what you and Ron Paul will never understand.
Theres nothing to protect in the middle east except for the stabilization of the oil market, which we need till you can find something besides pinwheels, ethanol and solar, and to keep the theological morons from destroying that market and building nukes.

"It would be as if an ordinary family with a household income of 60K spent $15,000 dollars a year on guns and ammo. They'd be the frightening neighborhood psychos!"

That was lame.
You seemed to of completely left out homeland security and the intel sector.
You're like a 5 year old who only sees tanks and planes n bombs.

Asshole pissed away more in 2 years than Bush did in 8 with two wars, 911 and Katrinaand got nothing to show for it except for things being worse.
The military was only about 10% of that humungous fuck up.
Military is not the shrimp on the treadmill


"I don't even know what to say about that. Yes, Micky, environmentalism is Marxism, bla bla bla. Whatever."

Weak.
Thats what you said 3 years ago when Antisocialist ripped you a new one on environmentalism.
I've still got that debate tucked away.
Would you like me to show you how he and I proved that point very eloquently ?
Its a dictative over reaching form of governing peoples lives.

"I'm sorry Micky but none of that is true."

Right, yheres not a "bad drug" "hip replacement"commercial paid for by some ambulance chaser every ten minutes on TV.

"Our healthcare system is a wreck. We have serious problems, with quality, cost, availability, you name it."

Yeah, Government is gonna fix all that like they did medicaid/care.

You're a fool

"You can choose to ignore that if you like,"

Sghow mw where I ignored it. I gave you the best example of the worst problem

Its the fuck you attitude you mentioned below and were all payin for it now

"In other words, it's the Libertarian Credo: I got mine so fuck you."

See above.

micky said...

Stop suing the shit out of people for nothing and treating illegal aliens with my money and more Americans can afford healthcare

"And then, when you don't have your's, and you need it, you bitch and moan like the rest of us."

I bust my ass to pay for mine and then probably some moochers like you

"I've had better healthcare than the vast majority of Americans, and I've had much worse. This country is all over the place on that. We need better. It's better for us, for our future, for the nation, and for the world."

Yeah, eating promotes great health.
Stop producing ethanol if you're so worried about the planets health.
Fuck, people have to eat first ya know.

"We should have the BEST healthcare for all Americans, not mediocre care for all but those who happen to work for foreign employers "

o cut the bullsht


"As for a national power grid, please show me where the private sector is jumping on that. It is not short-term profitable, nor should it be. We need it even though it's not profitable."

You want the government to handle that too huh ?
Howsthe government handling everything else so far ?
Numnuts

"I think you need to reveiw your Bible on that one. You're making a false choice."

Government stands nothing to lose but your money, fool.
Private sector has to show a profit and they cant if they're not functional


"A national power grid is an example of that."

Yeah. like the time we had no power here for two weeks because the state/HE worked so well together on this LITTLE FCKIN ISLAND !
I CAN JUST SEE A NATIONAL FED RUN GRID HAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA.

"I suppose. But our "border" has a lot od dimensions."

Excuses Excuses.
Illegals and the collateral's cost us a trillion every three years .
It'll pay for itself.
Left dont want it. Right dont want it. That simple

As for progressive taxation and Europe: Europe is working through this and they are not cutting taxes anywhere near our silly brackets. We have the lowest taxes since before the depression, and we have the biggest deficits since WWII. Guess what? We paid that debt in the 40's and 50's with very much higher taxes and during that period we experienced the greatest growth in the middle class in the history of the world.

Argue that

Greece, France, the Euro aint worth sht.
And we didnt have a 1% that could pay 40% or a 5% that could pay 60% in those days.
You guys have progessively since then dropped taxes on the average guy and jacked up the rich fcking everything up to where it is now.

We dont have a revenue problem.
We have a spending problem..

argue that

micky said...

It comes out to 250,000.00 per job.
Private sector jobs.
800,000.00was supposed to go into infrastructure, creating jobs.

"Shovel ready"
Last year dickhead said theres no such yhing as shovel ready.
Last week he said "shovel ready" wasnt shovel ready...

800,000.00 on infrastructure disappeared.
And you want us to trust you assholes with a national grid ?
Oh, I know, the private sector will get the contract.
My bad

GE ! RIGHT ?

pffft

Jersey McJones said...

"You think anything military is stupid."

No. Of course not. I'm fascinated by the military and have read all about it since I was a child - and still do! I even tried to join up once, but at the time, I did not qualify.

It's melancholy memory, actually. Just a year later, I would have qualified easily. (I had a mesh installed to put and to the hernias, I would qualify with that). We just weren't growing the military in the early 90's. And then I got settled into things and didn't want the change.

Of course, we weren't living in the paranoid world we're in today.

"Its job is to protect growth."

Yes! Of course! We have to have a military. Personally, I think we should look at the prescient strategy written into the Constitution: Keep a strong navy. We can project all the force we'll usually via the navy, with air and marine forces along for the ride. We do not need a massive standing army.

"Asshole pissed away more in 2 years than Bush did in 8 with two wars, 911 and Katrina."

No. Bush increased the debt by 75%. Obama by 25% - so far. Yes, if Obama were to be president for eight years, he'd "outspend" Bush. I guess that makes Bush a great president, huh? Sheesh.

"I bust my ass to pay for mine and then probably some moochers like you"

Ya know, Micky, I wish you wouldn't say stuff like that. I don't want to question your judgement of character.

I happen to be working very hard, very demeaning, very physical work these days. And for squat. For a variety of reasons I have to do that. I have pretty serious health problems, and even with that, I've managed to lose thirty pounds, and get fit in pain and illness.

I don't blame the economy or the government or Republicans or Democrats of liberals or conservatives or Christians or Muslims or anyone else for my situation.

I could move back to NY tomorrow and easily get ahead. But I made promises and vows and I intend to keep them.

That's what family - and America - is all about. Not me for me and fuck you.

JMJ

micky said...

"
No. Bush increased the debt by 75%. Obama by 25% "

Try again.

Barry did in 2 what Bush did in 8

Our debt has risen from 9 trillion to 14.5 under Obama.

FACT

Had Bush increased at Barrys rate it would of been around 15 trillion when Barry took office and we'd be at 19.5 trillion today instead of 14.5.
Bush averaged a 1/2 trillion a year because he inherited 4 trillion at his term.
Barry has averaged 2 trillion of his own every year in the last 3 years with deficits completing this year.
He has spent more money and gotten less return than any man in history.

"Ya know, Micky, I wish you wouldn't say stuff like that. I don't want to question your judgement of character."

Yeah well, stop assuming everyones wealth is due to or for someone else.
TORT reform baby.
But liberal lawyers and lobbyist wont have it

micky said...

Her
http://patterico.com/2011/01/03/the-debt-passes-14-trillion/

micky said...

"No. Bush increased the debt by 75%. Obama by 25% - so far. Yes, if Obama were to be president for eight years, he'd "outspend" Bush. I guess that makes Bush a great president, huh? Sheesh."

No, but I give him more respect than you do.
And just to show an example of how much more fair and non biased I am check out this debate on the same topic shortly before I spoke with you.
Obama is a complete failure and I used a Heritage foundation run down consisting of nothing but Bush 8 years of wasteful spending.
Wasteful spending is on Obamas hands much more than Bush as I just made the debt accumulation numbers clear per span of time.

Right around comment # 15 you'll see how IK tried to be fair with this asshole who blessed Obama but bashed Bush for the same mistakes but not of the same scale.
Its excusable and tolerable and justifiable when Barry does it, but not Bush ?

http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=8812&cp=all#comments

Lisa said...

lol. Mickey good to see you still fighting the good fight.....with Jersey.

Lisa said...

Jersey you know the song "Tax Man". McCartney wrote that because he was sick of England's high taxes.
Actually this girl I know through blogging,s in laws live there and it took her father in law 6 months to get a root canal. High taxes and shit to show for it. Although you may be able to get a 2 bedroom flat for 5,000 per month. How's that or helping the middle class?

Trestin said...

I agree on a few of these namely:

Cutting defense spending
Reducing dependence on foreign oil
Trade with our interest up front.

micky said...

My Granparents came here from Denmark 20 years ago so they could collect US social security ontop of their Danish Social security.
They moved back to Denmark and got taxed so heavily on the US Social Security as income that they broke even as if they'd of just stayed home 20 years ago.

Yes, Danes are the happiest people on Earth until they've lived here 20 years and realize they were happy only because they never knew there was a life outside the fishtank

Micky said...

Just so you know...

I've tried Firefox, Internet Explorer, AOL, Safari...
But I cant get my comments to stick over at Erics.
I got the right name and password but when I submit, it just vanishes.
He dont answer E nails so maybe you could mention it for me.
There might be others as well.

Ever since he went that irritating "Eye Of The Tiger" format that place has been very temperamental, you never know what the problem will be

Thats putting it nicely

micky said...

Via Rasmussen:

As the Beltway politicians try to figure out how they will raise the debt ceiling and for how long, most voters oppose including tax hikes in the deal.

Just 34% think a tax hike should be included in any legislation to raise the debt ceiling. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% disagree and say it should not.

There is a huge partisan divide on the question. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Democrats want a tax hike in the deal while 82% of Republicans do not.Among those not affiliated with either major political party, 35% favor a tax hike and 51% are opposed.
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Via Rasmussen:

As the Beltway politicians try to figure out how they will raise the debt ceiling and for how long, most voters oppose including tax hikes in the deal.

Just 34% think a tax hike should be included in any legislation to raise the debt ceiling. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% disagree and say it should not.

There is a huge partisan divide on the question. Fifty-eight percent (58%) of Democrats want a tax hike in the deal while 82% of Republicans do not.Among those not affiliated with either major political party, 35% favor a tax hike and 51% are opposed.

(Cant get in over at Erics)

micky said...

oops, lost the top half !

Barry;
“The American people are sold, I just want to repeat that.”

“You have 80% of the American people who support a balanced approach. 80% of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem. The problem is members of Congress are dug in ideologically.”

This is where we have to start doing something about the media that just sits there and lets him convince less informed people that they’re not part of this make believe majority.
He never should of been able to get 2 seconds past that statement without someone in that press pool standing up and demanding he tell us how he knows this.
But no.
We and everyone else just sits there grinding their fucking teeth in disgust saying nothing or lapping it up.
Not at the talk shows, not the 5 second sound bites during the news, not during panel discussions.
Right then and there in his fucking face ASAP.
Its always the propaganda and false notions that lead to collapse

micky said...

Budget: Four of five Americans are "sold" on higher taxes to solve the deficit impasse, according to President Obama. Either he's deceiving himself or he completely misunderstands how the public really feels.

The president on Thursday cited a recent Gallup poll that purportedly shows, in his words, "80% want higher taxes" as part of a deal to slash the deficit. "The American people are sold," he said. "The problem is members of Congress are dug in ideologically."

In fact, a quick look at the polling data referenced by the president shows this isn't true. Not even close.

Gallup itself breaks it out: Those who say they want the deficit reduced "only/mostly with spending cuts" total 50% of those polled. Those who say they'd like it done "only/mostly with tax increases" total 11%. That's not 80%.

Americans aren't fools. Democrats just think they are. Whether its a $4 trillion "grand bargain" or a smaller $2.4 trillion cut in the expected $10 trillion in deficits over the next decade, if tax hikes are part of the deal it will sink the economy. Tax hikes are a nonstarter.

Americans see the explosion of $1 trillion-plus deficits stretching for decades to come, $107 trillion in unpaid bills for entitlements and a failed two-year Keynesian experiment that has pushed up federal spending by 25%. They know taxes didn't do this — spending did.

That's why Republicans should ignore Obama's demand for tax hikes. In our own IBD/TIPP Poll, 60% of Americans said they'd be "less likely" to vote for someone who supports increasing the debt ceiling without "major spending cuts." Heck, 58% said they either "somewhat" or "strongly" oppose raising the $14.3 trillion debt ceiling at all.

In our June poll, 74% of Americans opposed tax hikes as a way of getting out of our economic mess, while 80% also opposed more government spending.

cont.

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578556/201107151857/No-US-iDoesnt-i-Want-Tax-Hikes.htm

Radical Redneck said...

The Science is Settled!

Rational Nation USA said...

"WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE

It is an absolutely necessary human right and we need it to be a constitutional right immediately."

Explain please Mr. JMJ by what ration thought process is universal health care a "human right."

Rational Nation USA said...

... rational though process...

dmarks said...

"WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE"

No, we don't. It's a fascist solution, a major power grab by the rulers.

"WE NEED TO DEMILITARIZE"

Did the Taliban slip in there and write this one for you? No, we don't need to at all. Unlike a lot of things, defense IS a legitimate Federal mission and expense. We mustn't demilitarize. And we most certainly can afford it. The amount spent on defense is a small percentage of the tax revenues coming in.

"WE NEED TO END OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL"

Well, I do agree. Drill baby drill!

"WE NEED TO END THE WAR ON DRUGS"

Just what we need: more drug abuse. This one makes sense if you are a pusher. No, we are not ruining any lives. The drug abusers are choosing to ruin them.


"WE NEED A SIMPLIFIED AND MORE PROGRESSIVE TAX CODE"

Don't you like buzzwords? They have labelled a bad idea like this type of tax system "progressive" in order to make it sound good. We need simplified tax codes, yes, but we need to make taxes lower AND flatter.

"Any look at modern history shows our tax code is heavily tilted in favor of the wealthy at the expense of the nation."

This is so flat out wrong. The rich pay more in taxes as individuals, as a percent of income, in total dollars, and as a percent of Federal revenue.

"It's obvious."

No, it is the exact opposite of what you claim.

"WE NEED TRADE WITH OUR INTERESTS IN FRONT"

Of course. And free trade (no tariffs) lets us do this. Then each person can trade according to their interest.

"Our trade deficit is pathetic."

It's actaully a meaningless statistic, as something of equal value is always being traded.

dmarks said...

"In other words, it's the Libertarian Credo: I got mine so fuck you."

That's a lot more like the credo of the ruling elites.

And if the libertarians are giving a "fuck you" to anyone, it is to those who are much more rich and powerful who already have "theirs' and want to steal more.